The Honorable Judge D. Chasdai: Attorney Goren, (unclear).
Adv. Mr. Amos Goren: You are also familiar with this publication?
The witness, Prof. A. Grotto: Yes, I know all the advertising in this field, I can also comment on all of them. I also sat down and talked to some of the people,
Adv. Mr. Amos Goren: Is that correct?
The witness, Prof. A. Grotto: In the framework of national councils, some of them accepted my position, some did not, but in the end I was the one who had to make the decision.
Adv. Mr. Amos Goren: Yes. It's true that you said that analyzing the data on your part was not optimal? Regarding this letter.
The witness, Prof. A. Grotto: I don't know, I don't remember what I meant, I can say that the interpretation within the interpretation of the data, as it is presented, was mostly quoted in part of the ... In this letter in the media, it was she who took this matter out of proportion. No, it's not the data themselves, I still do, the data speaks for itself. In other words, from an epidemiological and statistical point of view, the finding is correct. It's a matter of interpretation. And in this case, what I am. In fact, the interpretation I gave is one that is definitely reasonable.
Adv. Mr. Amos Goren: So no, no, no. Is it true that you said it or it is not true that you said?
The witness, Prof. A. Grotto: I don't remember
Adv. Mr. Amos Goren: that the analysis of the data was not optimal.
The witness, Prof. A. Grotto: I don't remember if I referred to it. In any case, In all of these studies in the field of environmental health, and it also appears in the big report that I wrote. In environmental health studies, it is very difficult to achieve optimal surgeries. There are not many good studies in this field and you have to rely on a collection of studies, which will eventually give you the picture. And if we compare it to the world of boxing...
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- With regard to its reference No. 2 in Appendix 4, and Appendix 15 to the Respondents' Appendices (the Ministry of Health's letter of April 21, 2015), it will be stated briefly:
- Appendix 4 of April 12, 2015, which consists of a little more than three pages, refers mainly (pages 2-3) to Reference No. 2 - a study by Yakir Rotenberg et al., about which it is stated, inter alia, "...The researchers followed the participants of the Central Bureau of Statistics survey (1995) for 10 years."
- In a Ministry of Health document issued shortly after the writing of Appendix 4, on April 21, 2015, it was stated, inter alia, that "...As for the data of the study by the Hadassah researchers (who followed a population in all age groups for 10 years, including children aged 0-14, and found an excess of morbidity. The Ministry of Health will continue to examine the data presented. The Director General of the Ministry of Health will continue to hold discussions on the subject with additional experts in other fields."
- Grotto was asked about the above and answered as follows:
Adv. Mr. Amos Goren: After this letter came out and after the articles I mentioned to you were published, On April 21, 2015, a discussion was held with the Director General of the Ministry of Health..