And later on -
... I WAS THERE, DEMANDING EVERYONE'S RECOGNITION OF MY ROLE AS A PI, AS A PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR, AND I DEMANDED THAT I PRESENT THEM WITH THE PLAN AND CONTINUE TO PRESENT THEM WITH THE STAGES OF PROGRESS, BECAUSE I WANTED IT TO BE A PROJECT OF THE MINISTRIES. But that's exactly, you're supposedly leading me into the same trap that I avoided. Why did I involve the offices? I involved the ministries and demanded and demanded the publicity and everything, because I didn't want it to be perceived as a document on behalf of me. This is a document that I, as a professional body that was proposed by a government ministry, have become the leader of this action. With a clear mind, with good intentions, truly in... It's just that there's a bit of a reversal of the whole (unclear). I'm really, really really a scientist who's been trying to come up with scientific truth all his life, and that's just one of the chapters in it. (pages 1857-1858)
And so it goes on –
Okay, look, I can only tell my truth. The truth is that I'm a scientist, I've been called to do something within my scientific ability, not to mention that I'm also a resident of the area. And since I thought that there would be exactly the kind of public opinion you are suggesting that I would as if everything would be for a reason, and for a reason and for a reason, I took the trouble to involve all the ministries, I took the trouble to demand their approval for each and every step I took in this investigation, and also in the opinion I took the trouble to mention that it was on behalf of the demand of the Ministry of the Environment and under their supervision, this exactly represents the fact that I wanted to make it clear all the time that I am not any kind of independent. I was approved for this position. This job demanded a salary, because it required years of work, years of work. I assume that when you go to carry out a project of several years, you get paid for it. There is no here, it seems so trivial, and I honestly can't even tell you today if 80% or 60% of the budget I received, whatever it is, went to the Technion or went to me. I don't know, I don't remember. It was, we were. We set out on a mission and this mission took 3 years. Okay? So in the Shamgar Committee, which was a state committee, I worked without pay for three years, I only received travel allowances, but there is a limit. People like me. Come on, we live here. So we did some work, but deliberately, deliberately, every step was brought to the committee to get their approval so that no one would stand up later and say that they did things for the benefit of the factory that don't make sense...