Defendant 2 described it as follows:
"And indeed, he came and said to me,, 22' The Judge, that they found, I knew, by the way, 22' The Judge, At first, he didn't even talk about Jaffa at all, At the beginning of the road we talked about, there was no Jaffa at all, He was talking about the first area, Ness Ziona, Rehovot, Sunday, Ness Ziona, Rehovot because that's the area they know, Probably, I do not know, I didn't understand why, But that's what they found, I didn't ask, 22' The Judge, What they found, They did not find, It suits me, He tells me, I need a loan..." (Prov. p. 1213, s. 4).
Defendant 3 described it as follows:
"... His health condition he was in the hospital for forty or so days, he was on the floor for a long time, during the time he was on the floor I called Chaim and told him to listen to me, Fouad is in a state of condition I don't believe he will wake up from this floor and I ask you to come be with us, he came and he arrived and he left only a day or two for a check at the border police that Fouad woke up, and after he woke up he was sick for a very long time, Our relationship during this period had already started to be much more connected, I used to visit him every day, I would go to him with friends to entertain him, he got into a deep depression, no one knew it but he was in a deep depression for almost a year, really depressed, and at some point he asked me for a loan to put how they say, to put a down payment, a down payment on the house, I told him listen I don't understand what you need to do now I say this in the utmost honesty I told him for What are you buying a house now what are you in your situation you need to buy a house? He told me no, I want Yariv to come with me, I told him Yariv can pass by you. He said to me, "Roy, that's what I want at this point, I want to buy this house." I said if this is your wish, I don't remember exactly where and if he even told me how much" (Prov. p. 1415, s. 1).
It should be emphasized that the prosecution did not present any evidence that could contradict the descriptions given in connection with the request for money by Ben-Eliezer, and in any event, it appears that the descriptions given by the two defendants in this context were authentic.