"Q: Look, the interrogators don't understand, they don't get along, of partnership, between partners, Investigator Biton tells you and I refer her, the same transcript from that day Susanna, page 107, line 22, tells you OK you won't do anything and you won't let him know hide it from him OK Kay, interrogee, you answer him, Ninety-nine percent of the actions I do are not aware of them, at all, and will probably never be aware of them unless there is a reason to say, the investigator and why, you answer him, because the business relationship that we have, I do and in most cases I don't even update, but if it floats or comes up then I tell him, now it doesn't matter, even if I made a mistake, Even if I bought a building, I decided to buy a building for $200 million, and the stupidest deal I've ever made and we lost money and he just heard about the deal we signed He's fine, it's Avraham Emet?
A: That's right" (Prov. p. 922, s. 5).
See also the defendant's testimony regarding the nature of his work with Ben-Zaken: "It was just the nature of our work, I was busy with a lot of other things, I also didn't have time and I don't concentrate on these things and you will see at that moment that I decided that Jackie is my partner and I give him money, money gives him for his part, after all, I have to be crazy not to believe or not believe in his abilities, otherwise why did I do that? And then that's how our business started" (Prov. p. 1165, s. 21).
See also Vaknin's testimony regarding the manner in which Ben-Zaken and the defendant behaved: "From what I saw as a bystander, that it is mainly Avraham calling Jackie, Jackie does not call to update Avraham, Jackie is a lone horseman, he decides what he wants and Avraham also gave it to him CARTE BLANCHE (In the transcript of the testimony, it was misspelled – B.S.) To do what he understands, then he is updated but therefore also, but the direction is usually from Moscow to Ashdod (Ben-Zaken's place of residence - B.S.) And not the other way around, but that's from my impression" (Prov. p. 484, s. 28). See also: "During the time I was in cranes, orders of magnitude, I can't say exactly, but something like every 10 days, every two weeks, he had (To the defendant – B.S.) Businesses to run, so from time to time he would come, he had no position in the cranes, he was not a director or an officer and nothing, he was a shareholder" (Prov. p. 436, s. 25).