"... When I returned to Israel, we arranged to meet and we met and this is where we begin, the Honorable Judge, a relationship, I don't know, I also said in the interrogations and here I say, I saw him as a figure, not necessarily a character I say is a figure, I said, I even described him as a father, but I am in Fouad as a character as far as I am concerned, what is the symbol, the Honorable Judge? He was the kind of person who almost doesn't really exist anymore and I knew, I knew, the honorable judge, Rabin as well, and I also knew Sharon personally, the honorable judge, I was at his house a few times and I saw that he was the kind of person who has been all my life, really, but for me personally beyond the character and the symbol I saw a person I could talk to, talk to him for things and for me, I don't talk to a lot of people about a lot and things that I wouldn't talk to others, For example, I couldn't talk about that kind of thing with Jackie, I couldn't talk about that kind of stuff with anybody else, not with Dennis, of course, which was also what you could say, why didn't you talk to Jackie? Because these are things that would portray me as weak... Weak presenters, I mean, my private personal things and all that, besides, he, if someone knew him, the honorable judge, he was a person that you feel is hot, he embraces, he doesn't know, he gives a cheep, he gives a good word, but he was sharp, the honorable judge, he would say to me, I am the one later this thing can be published, but I had a personal problem, The Honorable Judge, that I have to make a personal decision in the field of my personal life and he put me there, he explained to me why I can't do it, he says you can't do it because it will hurt who you are, not in that sense, how you are as a person, he also explained to me why, the way I am, he already knew me, in your environment, He said, you won't be able to continue living, we have reached this level, the Honorable Judge and the stories he used to tell me and things he would tell me as well, a person who could be talked to, the Honorable Judge, fascinating, a person who was fun to talk to, a person who at some point, I lost a father at a very young age, the Honorable Judge, he was also a character replacement, As far as I'm concerned, that's how I felt, and most importantly, most importantly, I felt it from him as well and he didn't hide it, he never hid it..." (Prov. p. 1172, s. 8).
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