The witness, Dr. S. Libiki: So the data is from the data sources as described in the report and I can read that section if you like. So the data is from the sources of the data as it is described in the report and I can read it if you want me to read.
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Adv. A. Amorai: I ask you to confirm to me that you received most of the data from the factories, from Mr. Amos Goren or his friends? Or his employees?
The Honorable Judge: We're not talking about the figures, about the data. Anonymous figures, no figures
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- ..... OK so we We received reports that we used, there was data that we were given for one report and not the other. The first report and not the second report. Regarding the second report, we had access to the Ministry of the Environment's data system.
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In both reviews, I used data translated from the original. I didn't always see the original.
(In detail, pp. 1635-1641).
- It was presented to Dr. Livki that she used "...In the information given to you by the polluting factories. When in fact it is translated information that you can't even verify its reliability, its correctness, its authenticity?Her answer:
As I have already said, I think, we used mainly translated reports that we received from the lawyers, Meitar.
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The witness, Dr. S. Libiki: What I just said was about the first reportBut As for the second report, we were able to confirm most of the data using data we took from the Ministry of Environmental Protection's website.
- Yes, did you take data, ma'am, that is written in English? Or also data written in Hebrew that you have translated, these people who provide service to the polluting factories?
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- It's very interesting what you're asking because Tim Stratz found the data on the website of the Ministry of the Environment, he doesn't know how to read Hebrew at all but there was enough English there so he could decipher what was written, and in addition. Most of the data is numbers, which happily translates quite easily. Most of the data is numbers and it's easy to translate. And the names of the stations were in Hebrew, but The names of the stations were in Hebrew, but if I know the names of the stations I read enough Hebrew to be able to match it. But if I know the name of the station, then I know how to read enough Hebrew so that I can make the adjustment. So together So it's all together we were able to get the data directly from the MOE website. All of these things together allowed us to get the data, the information straight from a website.
The Honorable Judge: This regarding the 2nd opinion.