The witness added, "As of today, [...] There have been hearings in the courts, and to this day we are holding hearings on this issue. Whether there was a transaction or not, the District Court, when unfortunately during the course of the proceeding, the murder was committed. [...] The damage is that we can't sell the property to anyone today, we are left with very large debts. In my opinion, I'm not swimming in debt, but more than a million shekels and more, and right now we're conducting a trial in the district court against my uncle Abu Aziz, regarding whether there was a deal or not." He also added that the meetings with the defendant were unpleasant, and that at times the atmosphere was tense, although the defendant never threatened him. A violent incident took place at his uncle Moshe's place of work, where the witness was called immediately after the incident.
According to him, the buildings in the plots in the compound were built without a permit, but the defendant invaded their plot from Plot 49, and changed the face of one of the buildings there. On one of his trips near the property, he noticed that a tarpaulin was flying that covered part of the building, and then the witness saw preparations for casting and construction work; He reported this in an email to the deceased (the notice dated March 17, 2021 at 09:15 was attached as part of Exhibit P/139A, as well as in the memorandum of the report of viewing the discharge of the deceased's phone, P/75). The deceased told him that he was taking care of it (p. 3274), although he did not mention this in the interrogation. According to him, the deceased was not afraid of the defendant.
In order to settle the property, it was necessary to "eliminate all the surrounding problems. And some of the problems were incursions by [the defendant]." The defendant held dozens of meetings with them in order to purchase the property (p. 3268). The witness was presented with a document (P/36) that he did not know, even though he allegedly signed it. The witness further said that he did not agree to litigate with the defendant in a court of justice (according to Torah law), because he was told that the defendant would not honor the ruling, which was a kind of arbitration award (p. 3278).