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Class Action (Tel Aviv) 11278-10-19 Yehoshua Klein v. Oil Refineries Ltd. - part 125

January 13, 2026
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Adv. Dr. Tal Rotman:          Not a boundary.

The Honorable Judge D.  Chasdai:          Don't interrupt.

The witness, Prof. A.  Grotto:        I'm referring to my professional field, I'm talking about trying to characterize whether there's a connection between exposure and outcome.  Not to say, I mean, that's the goal of the study. 

Adv. Dr. Tal Rotman:          OK, I mean you, what you really are, if I, if I understood you correctly You say that I am not an expert on pollution in Haifa and I don't know about the sources of pollution in Haifa.  You mentioned pollution from transportation, right?

The witness, Prof. A.  Grotto:        I know that there is pollution from transportation in Haifa, I know that there is pollution from industry and I know that there is also pollution. 

Adv. Dr. Tal Rotman:          You also know there's pollution.

Adv. Dr. Tal Rotman:          Don't interrupt. 

The witness, Prof. A.  Grotto:        I know that there are also smokers in Haifa.  I know that in Haifa they don't smoke more than in other places in the country.  I know that too. 

Adv. Dr. Tal Rotman:          Is this according to what question? According to which test?

The witness, Prof. A.  Grotto:        According to data from the Ministry of Health

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Adv. Dr. Tal Rotman:          But you don't really know if there are more people there who smoke a box and a half a day, because you haven't checked it. 

The witness, Prof. A.  Grotto:        There are also questions about quantities, yes, I didn't ask the quantities, but... 

Adv. Dr. Tal Rotman:          You haven't checked the quantities

The witness, Prof. A.  Grotto:        Okay, but I know like the data. 

Adv. Dr. Tal Rotman:          You don't.

Adv. Mr. A.  Amorai: Let him answer!

The Honorable Judge D.  Chasdai:          Please.  Just let it finish, ask whatever you want. 

The witness, Prof. A.  Grotto:        Look, I'm not (it's not clear) because in the framework of the Health Ministry's surveys and surveys that are also conducted through the military, even when I was in the army, we conducted surveys for recruits, they are based on a questionnaire that also includes an analysis of data regarding quantities.  I mean, you also look at quantities and comparisons, I assume that if there was such a finding of quantities sometimes it could be an exception and someone would publish it, so I can assume that it wasn't, there would be no finding in this framework.  Once again, these are questions that are asked.  A series of questions about smoking and ultimately in the nature of things when you write a summary, then you write the main question. 

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