In summary, the defendant continues to refrain from substantive cooperation, insists on the claim that he does not remember anything of what happened on the day of the murder and on the day of the arrest, does not take advantage of the opportunity to provide an alibi for the second time, and continues to lie about his involvement in everything related to the dismantling of the plates and the loading of the Mitsubishi on the tow truck. The defendant ties himself to all the documents seized in the Mazda, except for the incriminating paper clipping, and refuses to provide handwritten samples.
The third and fourth interrogations are carried out consecutively on 14 September 2022, the first part begins at 12:05 and the second at 15:44 [P/153 and P/154 - the statements, P/156 - the joint transcript]. The researcher this time is Hagit Sabnar. The interrogation begins with a long conversation that does not directly relate to the murder and the events surrounding it, and the defendant cooperates and gives pertinent answers. He talks about his occupations in the field of moving and jewelry, and about his routine that includes waking up early, working and running errands, while most of the time he is at home, but he also likes to travel and get around in the car. In 2011 he suffered a serious car accident, was anesthetized and on a ventilator for about two months, and underwent a rehabilitation process over several years. Due to the accident, he is recognized as 85% disabled, unable to run and has difficulty walking for long walks, hence his intensive use of vehicles. The Mazda, which he sometimes uses, was received free of charge from a family friend named Muhammad Abu Khalifa, who also supported him in the rehabilitation process. The car is in the house, and anyone can use it.
At this stage, the defendant describes the attempts that took place in the past to eliminate him. According to him, unknown sources tried to kill him three or four times, the last time more than 40 bullets were fired at his car, in a tunnel near the exit of his house, but he was not hurt, and hid in orchards for several days before returning home. Nevertheless, he claims that he is not in conflict with anyone. The interrogation goes back to the day of the arrest and the day of the murder, and the defendant goes back to his ways, refuses to provide relevant information and repeatedly claims that he does not remember anything from the day of the arrest and the day of the murder, even though he usually remembers what he does on a daily basis. The defendant was asked about Abdullah al-Khatib, the tow truck driver, and said that he was a relative who also lived next door to him, and with whom he met almost daily. Nevertheless, he does not remember whether they met on the day of his arrest, and even claims that he does not know exactly what Abdullah is doing. He does not recall that they spoke on the phone several times on the day of his arrest, nor did they meet in the parking lot in Abu Kabir to use Abdullah's services as a dragist.