In the course of the conversation that the defendant had with his friend Tamer, he used "core terms" in the Midasitic terminology, among which they stood out: "Abu Bakr established a state on this land" (referring to the establishment of the caliphate by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the first caliph) and "Bakiya and Meddad" (survival and expansion, referring to the well-known Midasian view that the Da'ar'ar organization is still "alive and kicking" despite all the thwarts and moves carried out against it by its various rivals). The discourse between the two also revolved around a different law of appeal for dealing with crime (e.g., thieves), which is based on Sharia law, according to which the limbs of criminals must be amputated (interrogation document by interrogator Shaul, dated 18 July 2024, section 27; and materials obtained in an evidentiary exhaustion report for the defendant's mobile device).
- A conversation that the defendant had with Ahmad al-Faluji (36 years old, originally from Daraa/Syria, living in Germany, and living next door to the defendant during the latter's studies in Germany) About the civil war in Syria, and dealt mainly with various activities in Syria. This, alongside The two watch the Madas videos together and mutual transfer of Madas content . In this context, it was noted that Al-Falluji was in Syria during the civil war, and even participated in fighting on behalf of the oppositionand against this background, he was closely acquainted with various activities in the arena. The editor of the opinion notes that in the conversation between them, the two used terms that indicate that they "They see themselves as active members of the MDAS organization". For example, when they talked about the operatives of a different organization (while comparing them to Hamas operatives who participated in the 7/10 raid), they described and treated the operatives differently 20 "Our Gang" ("Our Jama'a") and "The Brothers". In their conversations, the two made sure to mention the full name of the organization ("the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria") and to use military terms that characterize the Middle East discourse, for example, "Anghmasi" (a term that describes a military operative in an organization whose role is to carry out assault operations into the enemy's ranks and inflict many casualties on him);
It was emphasized that the two treated the organization's various rivals (the Shiite axis, Hezbollah), with the same eagerness and burning hatred as the official leadership of Da'ar'ar.