Hagit Sabnar also collects from the defendant the following statement, the fifth in number, on September 28, 2022 at 10:05 [P/159 - Statement, P/161 - Transcript]. He was immediately asked, for the umpteenth time, what he had done on the day of the murder and on the day of his arrest, and he reiterated that he did not remember. As for the phones, all three are active and he uses them, but more people can use them. Each phone has a different password, but the passwords are known to family members, uncles, and siblings, and they can use the phones whenever they want, though they can't remember the last time someone else used them. The defendant is explicitly asked if he remembers a specific time when he did not have one of the phones, and he replies in the negative, but claims that this does not indicate that it did not happen. Although he claimed that the phones did not contain sensitive personal information, the defendant repeatedly refused to provide the passwords. The defendant was asked why he was not available on the morning of the murder with a 401 subscriber, and claims that he does not remember, nor if he was in Holon, Lod, in a civil file or in Haifa, as indicated by the DCOs. The defendant does not remember what he did in Tel Aviv on the day of his arrest, and when he is shown a video of the plate replacement, he does not identify himself and claims that he has nothing to do with the acts.
At this stage, the investigation is moving to Subscribe 685. The defendant is referred to the fact that in a WhatsApp group of which he is a member, which was located on his niece Siham's phone, a 401 subscription was replaced by a 685 subscription on July 6, 2022. The defendant replies that he does not know the number. He is also shown the change of 28 August 2022 from 685 to subscriber 761, which the defendant does not remember either. He is confronted with the voice messages in the correspondence between Sami Musrati's phone and the 685 subscriber, which imply that he is the holder of the subscription, but claims that he does not remember this number and is not familiar with these conversations. He later refuses to answer additional questions about the phones that were seized, the question of whether the 685 subscriber was on his phone, and the question of whether his phone was with someone else, claiming that he had already answered these questions, even though it is explained to him again that this is equivalent to maintaining the right to remain silent. He claims that he does not remember why he went to Haifa on the day of the murder, and that he does not have a mistress. He is accused of having 685 intimate conversations with his subscriber and therefore there is no chance that he transferred this device to another, which the defendant denies. He claims that he has no connection to Mitsubishi, and that he does not remember if he saw him in the family compound. He has no conflict, although they have tried to eliminate him several times, but he does not know who. He does not know the victim, and knows nothing about the Internet searches in connection with the murder.